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In February of 2011, I was fortunate enough to interview Hunter Hunt-Hendrix of Liturgy about...a lot of things. In the next few months, Hendrix would become the poster-boy for outcasts among outcasts when his essay titled,
Transcendental Black Metal - A Vision of Apocalyptic Humanism sparked the dumbest
disagreement between some band's perception of what Black Metal should be.
Oh, three months later they would release my favourite album of the year, Aesthetica. Thank you.
This interview was published in a zine, the name of which I cannot remember. Here it is, verbatim. No grammar clean-ups or cut-ups.
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Interview with Hunter Hunt-Hendrix of Liturgy, February 2011.
On Black Metal.
To me black metal isn't ultimately about light or dark, happy or sad, positive or negative. It's about an authentic state of being, an awareness of the fundamental substrate of nonsense, of excess, of impossibility. An awareness that is so intense that it is neither ecstatic nor terrifying, but some kind of divine fusion of the two, like an undifferentiated Emotion or Intensity. Maybe this same emotional/mental state of intensity has something to do with the very fabric of becoming, the fundamental creative force that is constantly regenerating the world. I see black metal generally as a sort of sonic funnel into this state, and my aim in Liturgy is to make black metal that in a way strips away all extraneous features other than this funneling aspect. Yes, like you say, it comes down to staring at an eclipse - which is both possible and impossible to do.
On "Transcendental Black Metal."
"Transcendental Black Metal" started out as a slogan that didn't have meaning. It started out as an image, which became the back cover of the Immortal LIfe EP - a low-res shot of clouds through an airplane window from above, and black text: "Transcendental Black Metal". I thought it was very beautiful. Over time, more and more I see the term connecting with the tradition of Transcendentalism. An American form of black metal has to be Transcendentalist.
On Liturgy's formation.
For a little while it was a two piece. I wanted to be able to play the recorded songs live. Bernard was a friend of a friend, and was interesting in learning the songs and playing them with me. We did a few shows just as a guitar duo. Greg was a friend from highschool - we played music together as teenagers. He was willing to try to play the burst beat parts on the drums, and had a friend Tyler who could play bass. And Greg and Tyler were friends from college with Bernard, and had all played in a band together before. It fell together pretty easily.
On drum machines and The Burst Beat
I first developed the burst beat using the Korg ES-1. It has a sort of unusual spinning disk as its master toggle knob. When I originally began making black metal on a four track, I'd record all the guitars and bass and vocals first... then I programmed a "blast beat" on the ES-1 which was really just all of the samples in the kit going off at the same time. I was never really satisfied with it. But then at some point I had the idea to do a black metal cover of the song "No More Sorry" by My Bloody Valentine. The percussion in that song has a wierd thudding ebb and flow which I wanted to recreate. I found that using the generic blastbeat I'd created but then mapping the toggle disc to tempo and spinning it freely creates these sorts of accelerations and decelerations that were really exhilirating. So I called it the "burst beat" and recorded the Immortal Life EP with these sort of acceleration and deceleration events mapped onto points in the songs. When Greg joined we worked from demos for Renihilation that had the drum machine swoops to transfer the concept to live drums, and it really turned into a different animal.
On the eve of Liturgy's Trans-Atlantic tour.
We've never played in Europe before. I've never even personally travelled to most of the countries we're going to. So yeah we're all very stoked. Particulary to play in Norway.
On Hendrix's musical past.
I used to play in two different hardcore bands. One was called the Holy Wars. We recorded an EP that was never officially released by anyone. This was with Greg from Liturgy during our teenage years, along with two other people who now play in Zs and Extra Life, two of my favorite bands in Brooklyn. I later played in a band called Birthday Boyz (with a different person also named Greg on drums). We released a 1-sided 12" EP. Birthday Boyz is still quasi-intact, though it's just 3/4 of the band, now we're called Survival, and we rarely play live. Holy Wars was essentially Converge worship and Birthday Boyz was essentially Saetia worship or something like that. For people who aren't very interested in the philosophical bullshit (which is most people!), it's not so hard to see Liturgy's sound as a collision between Norwegian black metal and the different strains of manic intensity that characterize metal-tinged hardcord and screamo.
On other metal bands from Brooklyn.
I think the most like minded band in Brooklyn is Extra Life, though they are not a black metal band.